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Woarna's avatar

Good article!

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Regarding response 3 to Objection 1, regarding the assumptions about Russia's motivations - I disagree those are false assumptions about their motivations. Russia basically openly admitted that they wanted Ukraine back as a part of the Russian empire. The claim that Russia doesn't seem likely to want to aggress against other countries or expand their empire also doesn't mesh given their invasion of Georgia in 2008.

Also, regarding objection 3 - Russia functionally said that they would not accept a deal like this in their response to China's proposed peace plan, in which they essentially said that any peace plan would have to acknowledge "new territorial realities" in Ukraine - that is, saying that any peace plan would require Ukraine to cede additional territory. Additionally, there were rumors of backchannel conversations going on with Russia proposing similar things and Russia had no interest in them (caveat of course that they're just rumors that I remember reading some months ago, but still).

Furthermore, at least as far back as half a year ago, there was reporting about the US - counter to what one might expect - privately urging Ukraine to indicate to Russia that they were open to negotiate.

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